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== Sample text is too long ==

Does anyone object to shortening the sample text? With my screen and font display settings the sample Lorem text extends beyond the image so clear does nothing. Since we're trying to demonstrate the effect of clear we should use a shorter sample text (a hard code of a portion of the Lorem text for example) rather than using a template that results in the demo failing for some users. The fact that the layout will look lousy is irrelevant for an example. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 18:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Overlong sample text ===
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Please use a shorter sample text. The current "Lorem ipsum" text is long enough that with my display settings the sample text '''already''' flows past the image, so there is no difference in the display when adding <nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki>. The shorter the sample text the better, as it will make the effect of the <nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki> more obvious. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 21:04, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

'fraid the sample text isn't actually encoded in the template, so changing the request. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]]) 08:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

:I'm well aware that the "Lorem ipsum" sample text is not encoded in this template. My point is that the default "Lorem ipsum" sample text template is excessively long for use in this template for some users (it flows six full lines past the image without the <nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki>for me) and it should not be used. Please replace <nowiki>{{loremipsum}}</nowiki> with a shorter sample text or even a short hard-coded string. <nowiki>{{Lorem ipsum span|max len=123}}</nowiki> will reduce the Lorem ipsum template text to just the first sentence. Request reopened. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 00:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
:: The examples are transcluded via [[Template:Documentation]] from the page [[Template:Clear/doc]], which can be edited by anyone. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 00:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Done. Thank you. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 02:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

== Question ==

What is clear because I see it at every section header — just asking [[User:TheGs2007|TheGs2007]] ([[User talk:TheGs2007|talk]]) 02:05, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
== Template:- ==

I'm confused as to why {{tl|-}} redirect here. What is the association between a dash and this template? ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 20:34, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Blaze Wolf|Blaze Wolf]] just because someone made it almost 20 years ago a shortcut to the html code. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:54, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
::Ah alright. I was wondering if it had something to do with HTML. THanks for the clarification! ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 20:55, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

== The example image isn't Clring for me ==

The example from the template isn't working for me. [[User:It's moon|It's moon]] ([[User talk:It's moon|talk]]) 12:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:[[User:It's moon|It's moon]], it's not clear, what you are trying to achieve. Please provide more details. Links to pages and [[Help:Diff#Linking to a diff|diffs]] would be helpful. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 13:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::So I was reading [[:Template:Clear/doc#Examples]] from mobile and it looked a bit confusing as both examples looked the same and thereby why I wrote that the example wasn't "working" (being displayed properly) for me. [[User:It's moon|It's moon]] ([[User talk:It's moon|talk]]) 19:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
::Doing a follow up on this. On the template documentation there are two examples. One uses Clear and the other doesn't. The issue is that both examples look the same on mobile. [[User:It&#39;s moon|It&#39;s moon]] ([[User talk:It&#39;s moon|talk]]) 20:09, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

Ihe exampi image isn 't CIring for me [[Special:Contributions/106.70.147.240|106.70.147.240]] ([[User talk:106.70.147.240|talk]]) 10:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
:Clear will not show a difference if the sample text extends past the image. That's why I drastically shortened the sample text per the above post, but it will not help in all cases. Make your font small enough that the text does not extend past the image and you should see the effect of "Clear". [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 10:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

== Edit request 3 December 2025 ==

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'''Description of suggested change:''' Avoid emitting incorrect HTML syntax and correctly pass the <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:Clear|diff=1206935019&oldid=1092941152}} as-yet undocumented <code>class</code> parameter]</span>, as follows: correct use of quotes; avoid emitting an empty <code>class=</code> attribute if no such parameter is passed. Also, remove the superfluous semicolon from the <code>style</code> attribute.

'''Diff:'''
{{Text diff
|1=<!-- Replace "ORIGINAL_WIKITEXT" (below this line) with the wikitext (source code) that you want to be changed. -->
<nowiki><div style="clear:{{{1|both}}};" class={{{class|}}}></div></nowiki>
|2=<!-- Replace "CHANGED_WIKITEXT" (below this line) with your requested new wikitext. -->
<nowiki><div style="clear:{{{1|both}}}"{{#if:{{{class|}}}| class="{{{class}}}"}}></div></nowiki>
}}

Or see <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:Clear/sandbox|oldid=1325531891&action=edit}} the sandbox]</span>.

Thanks for your time – [[User:McDutchie|McDutchie]] ([[User talk:McDutchie|talk]]) 17:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
:{{replyto|McDutchie}} Why is it incorrect to have a <code>class=</code> attribute that has no value? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:21, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
::It should arguably be <code>class=""</code> at least. But since this template is transcluded millions of times, presumably all but a few without the undocumented class parameter, we can remove significant overhead by not emitting the class attribute if it's not used. [[User:McDutchie|McDutchie]] ([[User talk:McDutchie|talk]]) 20:29, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
:::For the general case of HTML attributes, the value only needs to be quoted when it contains any characters other than letters, digits, full stop and [[hyphen-minus]]. An empty string contains no characters that are not in these 64; therefore, quotes are not required for the empty string. But surely the overhead would be greater if an <code><nowiki>{{#if:}}</nowiki></code> test were added? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:26, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
:{{not done}}''':'''<!-- Template:EP --> <code>class=</code> get optimized at a parser/HTML level to "class"; in any case, a {{#if}} condition takes up more parser time, and most modern browsers do pretty well with worse formatted HTML code, to me at least, this change is not worth the overhead. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2; display: inline-block; transform: rotate(0.3deg)">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 05:03, 6 December 2025 (UTC)